Unknown Unarchsdr (van Naaldwijk) van Voorne (abt. 1130 - 1230)

Born about 1130 in Netherlands

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Biography

Unknown was born in 1150. Unknown Van Naaldwijck ... She passed away in 1230. ^[1]

Unknown was born about 1130. Unknown van Naaldwijk ... ^[2]

Unknown Naaldwijck ... ^[3]

Dirk I van Voorne (ca. 1135, 1189) had de adellijke titel Heer van Voorne (van 1156 tot 1189). Zijn vader was Hugo III van Voorne, en hoorde tot het adellijke geslacht Van Voorne

Hij is getrouwd met een dochter van Unarch van Nadelwick, Heer van Naaldwijk en verwierf zo Naaldwijk. In latere jaren zou die heerlijkheid door een jongere tak van de familie Voorne worden bestuurd.

Kind(eren):

1. Hugo (ovl. na 1215)
2. Dirk II van Zeeland Van Voorne 1170-1228
3. Bartholomeus van Voorne Van Naaldwijk 1170-????
4. een dochter (naam onbekend) (Adelheid)

Their Daughter Adelheid married : Daniël I van der Merwede is geboren omstreeks 1120 in Dordrecht. Daniël is overleden in 1172 in Dordrecht, ongeveer 52 jaar oud.

Daniël trouwde met Adelheid van Voorne. Adelheid is geboren omstreeks 1175, dochter van Dirk I van Voorne en N.N.Unarchsdochter van Naaldwijck.

Sources

• Source: J.Visser Daniel van der Merwede parenteel
• Source: Wikipedia Dirk I van Voorne
• Source: Kok, Jagt, Bottinga, Maarhuisen, Kuiper, door Martin Kok
• Dr. Ted Vandevis >Stamboom Kok, Jagt, Bottinga, Maarhuis en Kuiper, door Martin Kok

Footnotes

1. ↑ Entered by Sherri Harder, Apr 16, 2012
2. ↑ Entered by Steve VanderLeest, Jun 22, 2013
3. ↑ Entered by Sherri Harder, Friday, August 30, 2013.

Acknowledgments

• Thanks to Steve VanderLeest and Vandevis-11 16:19, 3 February 2015 (EST) for starting this profile. Click the Changes tab for the details of contributions by Steve and others.
• Thank you to Sherri Harder for creating Naaldwijck-1 on 30 Aug 13. Click the Changes tab for the details on contributions by Sherri and others.
• Sherri Harder, firsthand knowledge. Click the Changes tab for the details of edits by Sherri and others.

Note from a Wikitree visitor dirkljongejan@online.nl on March 21, 2015 :

Hi, I reached these data through Adelheid van Voorne's daughter Maria van Merwede. I am dutch and know most of the names as villages and former villages 25 - 40 miles from where I was born. Starting with Unarchsdr. this is not a name but a patronym. so she was a daughter of Unarch, not a common name nowadays but not uncommon in the eleventh century in the south west of the Netherlands. Evidently her real first name was lost somewhere in transcription but it gives us her father as Unarch van Naaldwijk. Dates of births in this period for children of the lowest nobility or near nobility are almost all estimates, based on later facts, as marriage, signing as witness etc. The gap between the dates of birth between this lady and her husband is thirty years. Very much to expect much chance of children. Much older brides were possible if they were heiresses. This was what I am looking for as I need to find how the (low) Merwede title entered the (higher) Brederode family. As the title of Unarch van Naaldwijk is not reappearing, his daughter appears not to have been an Heiress. Without the territory, a 30 year older bride becomes rather questionable. Remember, only some county seats as Leiden did get their first ring forts in the second half of the eleventh century in the low lands. Bricks were very pricy and natural stone was not quarried less than 100-150 miles away. so these people lived in wooden farmhouses, not castles and could read nor write. Most lower nobility data in the low lands become very questionable in this era, several houses claimed to descend from e.g. bears as late as the end of the ninth century. Try to pursue data from the rhineland, or france where older noble houses did have more reliable data much further back in history. The early noble families from Holland did have many marital links with the Rhineland through Kleve, Altena and Cuyck or with France through Hainaut and Flanders. There you are likely to find well documented carolingian links that bring you back to Charlemagne, Charles Martel and possibly, through the Visigoths to the east roman emperors. In the swamps of Holland, not much is reliable outside the few counts and bisshops before 1300. You also refer to Heer in one occasion as a first name. Actually it is a title like Lord, but in that area of Holland unlikely to have existed untill about three generations later. Most nobility to be had achieved some administrative or military job on behalf or a local abbey or priory by 1100. they did not yet control territory but did have a certain position allowing influence. It really took time before the orderly feodal system started to function in the swampy area that was Holland. Compare it to policing the Louisiana bayous, it takes much longer to achieve and such area's are not the best base for reliable genealogy either. The stories behind these data may well be hundreds of years old but more embellished antique fables good for internal family use than realistic genealogy. Titles appear is such stories well before the dates in which they appear in contemporary documents. For the reasons given above, I doubt any proof through contemporary documents can be found for the data. Without such proof many of us consider such data non valid in genealogy. Sorry, I have a nice line directly from a Titan in Greek mythology myself, but not to be published as genealogy. Hope you understand my concerns Dick